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March 24, 2009


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Thanks for a great layout and explaination of the how's and why's of the ribbon.

Is there a 'last tool' key or bar in the new interface? You know how some programs keep an running bar of the last few functions in an easy-to-get-to toolbar... Similar to how RAC2009 keeps the last two drawings methods used next to the simple line segment icon for easy repeating. I suppose a 'Use Last Tool' keyboard shortcut would help a lot also.

BTW, this blog is a GREAT idea, because it allows one to digest bits and pieces of the upcoming release without getting 'over-stuffed' - Thanks! Mark

We do not have a "last tool" feature, but that is a compelling idea.


I hate to say it but this is exactly what I was afraid of. The example you listed hides one of the tools I use over and over on a day to day basis, but no less or more than the other two versions of the trim tool.

Currently there are 3 "modes" for the trim command. The chamfer style to connect two lines, the crossing or as it is labeled here extend, and then the third where you trim multiple items to one entity or reference. From what I gather that will be nested under the "extend" listing.

As for offset and even split, I use those much less than the trim command. Granted, I'm just one user but this imposed hierarchy is what causes folks to hate the ribbon in the current iterations. And personally it is why I'd much rather see the more compact version shown from Inventor a few posts back.


"However, based on usability data, we made exceptions and placed the most commonly used panel directly under the tab name to reduce mouse travel:"

I can see how this holds true and is a good move for the fixed Tabs, but it certainly doesn't hold true for Contextual Tabs.

For Contextual Tabs the Panel/s that are directly under the Tab label aren't the ones you typically need, and furthermore these panels are usually greyed out.
This isn't necessarily an issue when the Contextual Tab is first presented, but if you are needing to jump around tabs (which has already been noted as a workflow issue) while mid-command to grab other tools or switch views etc, when you come back to the Contextual tab, the commands you require aren't the ones directly under the Tab label.

This then increases mouse travel because the tools are located far left. "Panels are ordered generally left to right based on frequency of use."

Are there plans on reducing the excessive mouse travel distance for these Tabs as you have done for the fixed Tabs?

Sorry forgot to add one more thing.

"We do not have a "last tool" feature, but that is a compelling idea."

I like this idea too!

Since we are talking about consistent UI changes across applications, it should be noted that requests have already been made over the years (well before the Ribbon conception) to get a repeat previous command via the Spacebar (like in AutoCAD), since it currently does nothing when Revit is idle.

There are other examples of these tiny UI enhancements from other Autodesk applications that would suit Revit perfectly that have been continually requested by the Revit user, but have been ignored. Users have been requesting application consistencies long before Autodesk thought of the idea.

Was thought given to making the revisions dialog box easier to find?

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